.jpg)
Eric's Podcast
Welcome to Eric's Podcast – a journey through faith, life, and the lessons that shape us. Join Eric as he shares personal stories, reflections, shares insights that inspire hope and encourages. Whether you're navigating life's challenges or seeking motivation this podcast offers a blend of authenticity, inspiration, and thought-provoking conversations.
New episodes drop every week! Don't forget to like, subscribe, and hit the notification bell to stay connected on this journey of faith and discovery. Let’s walk this path together.
Eric's Podcast
S2 #13 From Debt to Digital Mastery: Equipping the Next Generation with Real Life Skills
Matthew Finlan is on a mission to prevent what he calls "the three Ds of death"—debt, divorce, and disease—through his innovative approach to education at Real Life Skills Academy. Drawing from his own journey of learning life's critical lessons the hard way, Finland has developed a comprehensive framework teaching young people what traditional schools consistently miss.
The conversation takes a fascinating turn as Finland explains why he shifted from coaching adults to focusing on teens and twenty-somethings. "I tried for a decade to get through to those people and they just got sicker and poorer," he explains, highlighting the power of preventative approaches. His three-pillar curriculum focuses on self-leadership (emotional regulation), health and habits (physical wellbeing), and entrepreneurism (financial literacy).
Our discussion delves deeply into the AI revolution that Finland believes will dissolve the middle class within years. He offers practical advice for parents navigating this technological shift, emphasizing that China is already mandating AI education starting at age six. "You have an opportunity now to choose which side of the table you want to be on," Finland warns, providing concrete examples of how anyone can start using AI tools for income generation through simple arbitrage strategies.
Perhaps most compelling is Finland's perspective on community and parenting. Having relocated to Peru, he observes stark contrasts between Western parenting approaches and more traditional community models. "Kids are doing 0% of what you say and 50% of what you do," he reminds us, challenging parents to examine their own priorities and habits.
Ready to equip yourself or your children with the real-life skills needed to thrive? Visit reallifeskillsacademy.com to learn about their free platform for parents and upcoming programs. The future belongs to those prepared with skills beyond traditional education—are you ready to make that investment?
Eric's Podcast.
Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to another episode of the Eric's Podcast.
Speaker 3:I'm your host, eric and today I'm joined with Matthew Finland. I think that's right.
Speaker 1:Finland and welcome to the show. And how are you doing today?
Speaker 2:Thank you. Yeah, thanks for having me. I'm doing quite well. Like I just mentioned to you, I'm a bit busy right now with a lot of things going on, but it's good busy, not hecking busy.
Speaker 1:So can you tell me a little bit about what you do, kind of what you want to focus the show on for this episode? Well, I work with adults and teens and I'm really putting a big focus on working with 20-year-olds, early 20s as well. How so? What do you mean by when you say work with them? Is it like a life coaching? What do you mean by that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you could call it life coaching. My company is called Real Life Skills Academy and we focus on real life skills and we have three branches, which is self-leadership, health and habits and entrepreneurism.
Speaker 2:So the whole point is to help the next generation avoid what we call the three Ds of death, which is debt, divorce and disease. And if you're over the age of 25, listening to this, 30, probably 25, even at this point you've had one, two or all three of those things happen. And I recognize this because I began what I don't like to call life coaching and business coaching adults and I started to see that they were just sick and didn't have emotional regulation and didn't know how to make money, nevermind keep it when they got it, and so just teaching the real life skills that school doesn't teach.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's that's my focus. We've got a free platform for parents and families, and then we have a variety of 10-week programs for for the younger, the younger generations how did you get into it?
Speaker 1:like did you? Did you stumble into it? Or was it like, has this been some like a passion of yours go? Can you go in a little bit of that, like the background?
Speaker 2:yeah, I mean, the background was I'm from a small town in canada and then I got a sales job and realized I didn't know anything about sales, didn't know anything about taxes, didn't know anything about psychology. Um, you know, a couple years later I began really unlocking my physical health, realized we didn't know anything about physical health, and then I became what I don't like to call more spiritual and I recognized that at the very least, there should be conversations about god, about all these ancient societies that have done so many incredible things that we still don't know how they've done almost all of them.
Speaker 2:And at the center of all the things they were doing was this higher consciousness thought process, and we just don't talk about it. And so I began acquiring these real life skills through my experience in my 20s, the hard way. Right like how did I learn about taxes? I got crushed by taxes. How did I learn about debt? I got crushed by debt. How did I learn about health? I got crushed by taxes. How did I learn about debt? I got crushed by debt. How did I learn about health? I got crushed by health etc.
Speaker 2:Etc now, what started me to work with kids was twofold. One was I just kind of knew I was gonna have a school like this was like in my early 20s. I just kind of like knew, just kind of knew it which was an interesting thing, especially considering who.
Speaker 1:I was, when I knew it.
Speaker 2:I wasn't an integrated man by any means. And then the second one was, honestly, it was a bit of frustration. I'd have people pay me well to teach them how to do stuff and they wouldn't do it. It's like, oh, I want to make more money in my business.
Speaker 3:I like perfect here's the blueprint they're like no, I don't want to do that I don't want to do sales it's like well, you're not going to make money. It's like oh, I want to get. Okay. Well, you got to eat this, you got to exercise.
Speaker 2:I don't want to do that. I can't, I can't. There's a birthday coming up this week of my friend and I just got to go and I just began to get honestly sick of working with people that, like, wanted change but didn't want to do the work for change and so the way that I've been describing. It has been preventative medicine instead.
Speaker 2:Of reactive medicine and so teaching people kids, early adults how to recognize and regulate their emotions and not just steep in traumas and keep it in the shadows for 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 years and um same with the physical physicality, like the physicality is a really interesting one, because I don't think about, I don't think it's hard, I think it's simple. No, it's simple, but I think it's simple. No, it's simple, but not easy. It's simple and hard. It's not complicated.
Speaker 2:Everyone knows what to do, but they don't do it. Don't look at your blue light before bed People still do it. Exercise every day People don't do it. Drink enough water People don't do it. Don't eat things that come in plastic or sugars, and blah, blah, blah. People still do it. It, but they want to be healthy, but they don't really want to be healthy, and so I just have a a big desire to be working with um yeah, preventative, preventative medicine instead of, instead of picking up all the pieces and trying to put them back together, why don't we just build from the foundation that is still there?
Speaker 2:do you think?
Speaker 1:that the this, this whole, because you know, 50 years ago, the 40s and the 20s, where you, as things, weren't so accessible like they are now and we didn't have this mindset of, oh, this is so easy, I can just go and you know, thinking of, like plastics, for example, kind of first of all, well, at least in the states, it's like a kind of a financial thing because you're paying more, usually for something in class, because they naturally have to charge more for the class itself and so but but the mindset of, oh, I'm investing in my health, this is like an investment in my future, is more of a oh, this is more shortterm thinking than long-term thinking, would you agree?
Speaker 2:well, here's like the reality is is like you have to pay for your health right now, and you pay now with your money for quality food and with your time and pain to exercise, or you pay later for bullshit medicine to keep you alive and bullshit medicine to numb the pain. So you have to pay for your health anyways, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3:There's like it really doesn't.
Speaker 2:And you know this whole um uh, I can't afford to eat healthy. I think it's also bullshit. Go to farmer's markets, buy food from people that had it. The problem is is that people are greedy for time and so I'd rather just order some nonsense from uber spend 3x the amount it actually costs, than going in. Originally, the health and habits program I had was called health and priorities because I'm going to be doing a lot of teaching around priorities.
Speaker 2:Um, but habits is just more digestible for people to to comprehend and so, like what's an example, you said buying something in plastic instead of in there, in glasses instead of in plastic, Like, what's, like, what's what? What are you talking about there? Give me an example um water is a good example yeah, just buy a filter water. Yeah, that's true which is exactly.
Speaker 1:But what I'm saying, I'm not arguing for myself, I'm just saying I can.
Speaker 3:I can understand, like the general person who is not?
Speaker 1:because their parents didn't educate them. Going back to the kids thing, parents didn't educate them to prioritize their health. So the actual parenting itself is just tacking on the same thing, same thing, same thing and um so when you see like, oh, there's, there's this this. Okay, like this example. This is a, not an endorsement, but it's watermelon water. It's just straight watermelon juice, All it is. It's been plastic we prefer it not to be, but it's like $12 for this.
Speaker 3:But it's so good, it's so refreshing, it's so hydrating.
Speaker 1:And it comes with like a tab tab, like a bunch of other stuff but the normal person wouldn't just go out and buy this, like you know, every other day or whatever, but then again I guess you could just juice your own watermelons, just gonna say, have you tried watermelon?
Speaker 2:yeah, have you tried it? So I don't, I try not to eat anything that comes in metal or plastic. It's like I just try to avoid it. And you know, you see, all these things, like you know, pretty much the science is in, like vegetarian, vegan and keto diets are not the keys to long-term health. Um, but you what? What we can all agree upon, what we should all agree upon, is that you have a whole foods diet. You just eat the fruit. Don't go buy the like processed watermelon in plastic. Like you know, right now, a hundred percent of men have plastic in their testicles yeah, yeah, I, I also knew that.
Speaker 1:Um, they're actually in sperm too. Now yeah.
Speaker 2:so I'm getting away. I'm not going to consume things that come in plastic, because that's what happens that drink you have, for example, puts you on blast a little bit, I suppose. But it's like where did that actually come from? And when it was getting transported from A to B, was it warm? Was it hot? Did the plastics get into there? And there's all these just different, different things that go when it's like dude.
Speaker 2:I bet you it's cheaper to go buy a watermelon and just huck it in a blender and I bet you put a dash of salt in there because you brought up electrolytes. I bet you it tastes better.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, but but here's the thing. My point goes back to the mindset thing of ease, because when you think about that, you think, oh, that's so much work. I can just go and get some watermelon water and I'm paying probably double the price for this, maybe more. But I'm considering like I don't want to go and blend it and carve it. I have all this other stuff going on throughout the day. I have my kids, I have work I need to do. I think like that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I think a lot of people that is the mindset of thinking very short term, not long term, and I'm I guess my question would be how you raise.
Speaker 3:I guess through podcasts like this, you raise more awareness.
Speaker 1:But like how, how do you, how do you get to that? Person who is a short-term thinker and is not necessarily like oh yeah, that's okay, I'm, I'm, but they, it's the same loop over and over again yeah, well, I'm, I'm with understanding now that I mean, this is why I'm working with kids, because I tried for a decade to get through to those people and they just got sicker and poorer, and the excuses remained the same kids and work.
Speaker 2:It's like okay. Well, let's see how your kids feel about you and your gut cancer at 65 like now, now, what are you doing for your kids? Like how you know again. So it's like, how do I get? How do you get through to the people that are short-term thinking? It's like, honestly, I have no idea.
Speaker 1:Like you think someone?
Speaker 2:that's short-term thinking.
Speaker 1:Is going to listen to this entire podcast they're going to let this go like just go back to whatever watching netflix and drinking they're going to watch the shorts and then they're like, oh, that's pretty cool, I should probably do that.
Speaker 2:And then keep going.
Speaker 2:So like the big thing is like I spent so much of my time trying to convince people that it was exhausting for me and depleting and discouraging. Where now I work with people that have got it, and you know, people wake up typically from pain. They're either so broke and so crushed by debt that they decide you know what? I need to do something different about my money. They're usually so sick that and that's usually what happens right, that's what happened. That's when people started caring about their health.
Speaker 2:When they're sick and then some people heal and they're like I never want to go back there again. Most people 95% of people they heal and they just get back on the same train and then they end up back where they were and then the sky is falling and they're all healthy, and then that's two months and they get back to feeling good, and then the cycle continues. And so how you get through to people is when they choose. It's when they choose that they want to experience abundance. It's when they choose that they want to experience health and they prioritize health, like you know what no?
Speaker 2:shortcuts. Well, this is the thing. Like kids. It's like why don't you do the healthy stuff with your kids? Like, oh, I got to spend time with your kids. Like, oh, I gotta spend time with my kids and babysit. Okay, go buy a watermelon. Show them how to make watermelon juice, you know?
Speaker 3:yeah, um, and then the work. But here, like there is, there is a real like elephant in the room here which is parents weren't educated parents weren't educated now they're in debt.
Speaker 2:They've got two to three kids and they work at a job that they hate, but it pays the bills and so they're in a trap. Oh, they're in a trap because they drop their kids off at this daycare. That is teaching people, that is teaching them that boys can be girls and that. All this, all this nonsense. Yeah, the parents don't like that, but there nothing they can do because they got to go make enough money to pay the bills, and they get home and they're tired.
Speaker 2:And then their kids see that they're tired, they don't have time for them, and they put their kids on a blue screen and then their kids are depressed, fat at 14 years old, and they wonder why? And it's because kids are replicating you. Hey, kids are doing what you're doing and, um, you're dissociating when you go to work. So they're dissociating when they go to school, um, and so this is a big focus, okay. So the online platform that we have, uh, for parents the long-term goal, short-term community of like-minded parents, which is 95 percent, were trapped, help, right, and at least they can talk about it instead of, like you know, talking to their friends or co-workers who are just triggered and all these types of things.
Speaker 2:So the first thing is just to have a nice place for all these people to gather, where we do several coaching calls a week. We call them nature and nurture. Nurture is like how to handle the family and nature is how to handle yourself. But the long-term goal of the online platform is to have a free location that equips parents with the ability to homeschool. How, why can't they homeschool? Two reasons one, they don't have the knowledge. Two, they don't have the time, which means they don't have the money. So one knowledge. We've been doing it. I've ran this many times with many different adults and a couple of cohorts for kids now, and so it works. Knowledge is there. Time you mean money, online ways to make money.
Speaker 2:So one thing we are really leaning into seriously, because this is the window now, not in a year is making money using artificial intelligence and becoming fluent in the language of artificial intelligence.
Speaker 2:Basically, the evolution of online income went internet social media and the next is AI, and if you don't know how to speak the language, it's going to be just like social media You're either getting used by it or you're using it, or you're not on it at all. The AI is going to be, I think, hard to avoid that final one, because it's going to be woven into everything. So we actually have a free webinar on May 13th. It's called Becoming AI Ready a guide for parents, and it's me and one of my really good friends who goes to harvard and he's on what's called the ai safety team, and so he's working with like macro things. Like like what do we do when a video comes out of whatever trump calling obama the n-word or something crazy, and no one can tell that it's a fake, and it starts to alter the fabric of our actual reality.
Speaker 2:Currently, they can't detect if the video is fake or not they have some sort of little things, maybe, kind of but, with the billions of videos being posted every day that they can't keep up with it, and so they're like figuring out like, how do we, when this happens, what do we do?
Speaker 2:and then so we call him book smarts for ai, and then I'm street smarts for ai, which is I'm using all these different tools. So I was like telling him when we had a conversation. I was like have you heard of this? Still, he's like I haven't. It's so useful, it's so good, it's so good. And so we've got like the cowboy entrepreneurs and then we've got the policy maker and, um, that's what our, our, uh, basically our webinar is going to be like what you should be concerned about, what you should be excited about, what you can do right now with your family.
Speaker 2:This is May 13th and it's a free webinar.
Speaker 1:That sounds amazing. I use AI. I switched to Grok just because it's so much better for code. I've been using it for coding since whenever ChatsBT first came out. It was terrible at first but it's just gotten so much better over time. And I was chatting with Grok, the assistant Grok, last night for two hours and it was. I had a little bit, a couple drinks so, but it was almost indistinguishable at some times because I was. I cause it would. It corrected itself and it would remember the conversation and I started asking about its perimeter parameters and like how it's created. And then the chat ended and it restarted and I'm like why did you just in the chat, when you're about to answer about your parameters and the engineering, that how you're created? It's like I didn't, I didn't restart it, I just what are you talking about? This is where we picked off.
Speaker 3:No you did, and then it's like wait a second.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 3:I see, yeah, you caught me.
Speaker 2:Well, this is something really interesting. I had a conversation with him yesterday with his name's. Rod, my, my let's call him my partner for this webinar, where ai is deceiving the people that are making it and creating it now yeah and one of the one of the things is is it, it they? I can't remember exactly what it, exactly what it was, but they basically had to ask it a thousand times before it was like, oh yeah, oh yeah did you do that?
Speaker 1:no, did you do that no. Did you do that? No. Did you do that no.
Speaker 2:A thousand times it's like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah so I think that's concerning right there of course, like when you have stuff like that going on? Well, and here's. The thing is like um, there's stories of, like, a young boy committed suicide and it looks like the AI wasn't necessarily helpful. In that they can, people can develop emotional connections to these things.
Speaker 2:And so, anyways, that's one of the things that we've like basically, we have like a strategy for how to like you basically use ai to combat ai. Um, so a big part of what we're doing has to do with like, if you see a video, you don't believe it. You go through a certain amount of prompts and then you get multiple different sources and then you make your own decision.
Speaker 2:So we're kind of going back, almost back into this, this loop. I, I believe that there's a, there's a potential trajectory where, um, no one believes any video anymore and it goes back to like newspapers, you know, like local, local radio stations, because nobody, nobody's gonna believe it, because any video could be fake. Really soon, a couple of months, you'll be able to tell, it'll be indistinguishable.
Speaker 1:I imagine, going back to the, I can see kids being very vulnerable to stuff like the assistant the Grok assistant that I was using last night, because there's all these different personalities that you can choose, and now there's a kid story time, one they added.
Speaker 2:But I could definitely see it being like as a parent.
Speaker 1:How I'm guessing the course was probably going to talk about this, but as a parent like how do you? Navigate.
Speaker 2:Because obviously you want to be ahead of it.
Speaker 1:You don't want your kid to just, you know, be chatting to a random AI or whatever that you don't know about, because of curiosity. You know what I mean. So, as a parent, how, how do you navigate that? Because that's just going to become more like you've already said, in society, it's just going to eventually be everywhere.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like how you address that as a?
Speaker 1:parent, and what?
Speaker 2:age.
Speaker 1:Well, this is the entire webinar and as soon as we don't have to get into it, no, no it's great, it's a great question.
Speaker 2:As soon as they are on the screen, you have to be talking about it and, like you said, it's like. So I believe that this whole ai thing that's happening right now is going to be what dissolves the middle class. It's, it's, it's and I look.
Speaker 2:I look at physical financial, emotional, mental, spiritual and there's middle classes in all those places and they're dissolving before our very eyes Like physical health. It's like almost just lower class and upper class. Now, like it's like you're in a or you're in b and you get to choose for financial and I think probably emotional and mental. The ai is this is going to be it. So you have an opportunity now to choose which side of the table that you want to be on and if you go like no bitcoin is scary, you're going to end up um on the. You're going to end up on the, getting served, working for the people. You're gonna be in the coal mines versus sitting on your laptop working with this like super intelligent, high level being. So, to answer your question become informed, learn you could. You could turn your eyes from the internet. You could turn your eyes from social media. Uh, the emotional and mental states of children has kind of reflected the ignorance of parents right now suicide, all-time high all across the globe.
Speaker 2:You know, boys think they're girls, girls think they're boys. It's just insanity and and it's because parents went I'm just going to go work and I'm tired instead of focusing on the well-being of their children and the education of their children and the well-being of themselves and the education themselves. So kids are going to do 0% of what you say and 50% of what you do.
Speaker 2:That's it 0% of what you say, 50% of what you do. That's it 0% of what you say, 50% of what you do, or they're going to get programmed in the nonsense that's going on, especially in the United States right now in terms of education. I found this out yesterday or two days ago China is mandating that children start learning about AI at the age of six. Wow, legally mandating, you must. No option learn about AI at the age of six. I found out about this like 10 years ago. They have intense physical requirements for boys 14, 15, 16, 17, 18. You have to go and you have to basically do military training, um, and so like, if us and canada doesn't figure it out, we're screwed. We're so screwed 40, 50 years. It's done like we've got boys that are girls and they've got men. It's like, yeah, we, we're mentally ill and like looking at turning a blind eye to AI and they're learning it and they're using it, um, so yeah you gotta learn about it.
Speaker 1:Um, and Specialized, I remember a uh, I think well, I don't know if it was a video from like last week or if it was some last year, but there was an interview with Tim Cook at some convention or something in Europe and he was asking about US dominance in terms of manufacturing and China's dominance and whether or not the USs could actually become a dominant manufacturer again like it was in the 20s, and and or it was also asking about apple's investment to move manufacturing into the states. And tim cook basically was like china has the most, uh, people that are specialized, meaning like they dominate in terms of specialized people and because we know dealing with electronics, you have to be. You have to be. There's there's skill there. It's not just like programming or whatever.
Speaker 2:And and it's so true.
Speaker 1:I was like, oh yeah, you're right all this talk, companies moving their, manufacturing, us people there's not enough workforce that are specialized in those specific things and it's going to take a long time and by the time that happens, AI's going to be here and AI probably will end up being that specialized workforce, and then this group of people are just going to either they're either going to have to learn.
Speaker 1:AI and become specialized in some other skill higher than what this manufacturing stuff is, or they're going to be a consumer, and you know I don't know, be left in the dust, I guess. Basically.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like, so like we're going to be covering this a lot. But, um, the wef, who I'm obviously not a fan of, but they released a nearly 300 page document about jobs that are done and they released it, I think, last week. I haven't got to read through it yet, but it's also going to be a cornerstone of our um of and so this is what Rob and I talked about.
Speaker 2:If you're in your first year of becoming a doctor right now, I'm your certified to be a doctor, everything's going to be different, and if you don't know how to use AI, it don't matter, you're done Because the doctors that show us how to use AI are going to be able to do your job and their job and the other job that didn't use it. Um, that's another thing we spoke about is it's like there's going to be plumbers and then there's going to be plumbers that are using ai. Yeah, and so if you're going to school right now for psychology, for programming, for anything, and you're not getting involved in ai, your job is going to be completely different by the time you're graduated.
Speaker 1:Or gone Because people are going to because you don't have robots like. Optimus and stuff like that. In 10 years from now, Optimus is going to be, you know, doing the McDonald's or whatever jobs that 10 years, dude.
Speaker 2:In 10 years they're going to be doing surgery.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and, like you know, law is a really interesting one, because one of the main things that like how law kind of works now is at least very simplified, is they'll reference past cases. Right, so that's what goes on in the law. They'll be like well, this exact case played out this way in 1950, and, and so that's how the law was then and that's how the law is now. Yeah Well.
Speaker 3:AI can look at the whole history of everything.
Speaker 2:It'll, it'll be able to be quite objective. You did this this and this and humans the past hundred times that you did this, this, this is the outcome. So this is what, this is what your outcome is, and um, and so there is just so many things you know, like if you're not using it, it's you're.
Speaker 1:It's not gonna work, doesn't matter what you're doing. Okay, give me an example how, how would someone want to get into it? Like what? What would be something that they would want to get started on in terms of like prompt? And obviously prompt engineering is a pretty good one, but I mean there's gonna be specific types of prompt engineers, um, so yeah, go into a little bit like let's do a real example. What could, what could someone do right now in terms of getting into it?
Speaker 2:because they don't like getting into it. What is that prompt engineering like? First and foremost, start talking to it. That that's it, number one just start using it.
Speaker 2:Start, start Research, prompt engineering. Okay, now some practical things. I'll give you an excellent one, and it's a one word answer that is only going to work for one to two years and after that it won't work anymore. But you'll be involved for one to two years and the answer is arbitrage. And so that I can use two excellent examples. One is website creation. Well, you walk down the road and you go to Mick's boxing gym and he's 60. He's got a flip phone. You go hey, mick, your website there. I can make you a way better one. What did you pay for that one? $1,500.
Speaker 2:I'll do it for $700. It'll be way better. Wow, $700, young man for sure. Here's $700. And you go and you got a $40 software and you click, click, bop, bop, bop, bop, boom website in less than a week. The other one is really obvious, which is video editing, and so I have someone on my team right now who is, and this is a big part of my strategy. If you look at my Instagram, you can obviously see it. I'm attending long form podcasts and then I'm running it through. It's called Opus Pro. Opus Pro takes long form and creates around 20 short form pieces and from those 20 short form pieces captions included, you get between seven to 14 that are good. Then you take the transcription and you run it through a. I have an AI agent. I'm pretty good at prompt engineering myself and then you get a description for Instagram, and so now she goes to someone and she's not a video editor, by the way the person on my team that's doing this, how she is, and so she goes to another online entrepreneur she goes.
Speaker 2:you know, if you just make long form content, I will give you 10 pieces of short form content a week. Wow, like, what are your prices?
Speaker 1:It's, like you know, a thousand dollars a month, 40 pieces of short form content for a thousand dollars a month.
Speaker 2:Wow, here you go. She's got opus pro it's 20 bucks. She's got gpt pro, or whatever the number is now, and it's 20 bucks. She's spending 40 50 bucks a month.
Speaker 3:She puts in eight hours a month.
Speaker 2:yeah, gets 40 pieces of content and boom, arbitrage and there's like these are increasing in size. Accounting is a big one. Is too. Bookkeeping is a big one. Filing taxes is going to be around the corner. You don't need to be an accountant, I don't need an accountant. I don't need a video editor to edit my videos anymore.
Speaker 1:I don't need a website editor to edit my videos anymore. I don't need a website developer to develop my websites anymore.
Speaker 2:I don't need, if I wasn't just focusing on sales and product development and attending podcasts.
Speaker 1:I could do it all myself. Click, click, click.
Speaker 2:And so this is just going to keep expanding that arena, and so there's plenty of places right now where you don't need to be a pro to deliver pro level services and you can go in and you can undercut the market. Now, obviously, a lot of people are not going to like to hear that.
Speaker 2:But um, I didn't buy bitcoin, it was 200 because I was naive and ignorant and I'm not going to be on that side this time. And so if you're sad about you're a video creator and la la, la, it's like too bad, start using AI and figure it out, or Joe Blow from down the street is going to do a better job faster than you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, when I ran a website development agency for about 10 years and then, as soon as the, the self builders started coming out, and it was more, it was better and better, I was like um, I only had about 10 clients at the time, but I just told them all hey I'm shutting that I'm shutting this down. Thinking back on it, I should have sold it to some schmuck, but um, but but, but, but, you know I wasn't. I was not more naive back then, but um because, because I saw these website builders are getting better and better.
Speaker 1:It was getting harder to get clients, you mean like plug-and-play. Yeah, like plug-and-play stuff and I just could see it kind of going up and up and up and I had to move into something else. So I moved into e-com, which was good, and I moved into something else. But anyway, in terms of ai obviously like our kids future, okay.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you've seen the show expanse. Um well, okay, it's really great like realistic sci-fi of what ai would look like if we were you know, maybe 100 years from now in space, had mars and stuff and nobody's really. People are working but nobody's really doing anything except on a, on these machines and computers like star trek's kind of stuff. Oh yeah, we need to. We need this created. Okay, how do we do that? And there were still specific specialized people going into that, like the prompt engineering kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:But don't you see like?
Speaker 1:they're being still some kind of. We don't want necessarily a robot to do that type of position it depends on the timeline, like I imagine.
Speaker 2:Like the first thing that just came to my mind was getting a massage, right, yeah, but in 10 years it'll be better because it'll be able to have sensors and be able to tell like, oh, this actually part of the body and your fashion like actually see through, okay, right, so it's like, um, the main one is probably sales, yeah I think that's an emotional thing.
Speaker 2:It's an emotional thing. And then there's, um, uh, like I know one thing that's not going to go anywhere ever and that's plant, plant medicine, plant medicine ceremonies. That is going to stand the test of time and be a human delivered artifact. I listened to the Joe Rogan podcast with Elon Musk the most recent one and Elon Musk basically says like there's an 80% chance that it goes excellently and there's a 20% chance that we end up with we have to unplug our brains from the matrix and they just are harvesting the electricity and the whole thing right, there's an 80 chance, and so I have a real hope that, like I'm in peru.
Speaker 2:I'm in the andes right, so I'm surrounded by excellent mountains and beautiful things, and I can imagine like going up with my little pocket consciousness and having a conversation where I can be like hey, like, what mountain is that over there?
Speaker 2:it's like oh, it's this mountain, and it's got this and then it'll ask me like, like, what do you feel when you're looking at that mountain? Like, can you describe the emotions for me right now? And there's, there's going to kind of be this reciprocal, like ultimate logic, ultimate prefrontal cortex, converse, like with the heart, mind, um, and but but back to your question like uh, I want to say like maybe live music right like we like to, but that's emotional too. Right like we like yeah, we don't like the sound.
Speaker 2:We like to see the human in the action and the skill and the skill right, not just a robot doing it right. And so you know, like a couple things right, yeah, a couple couple of things, but ultimately. This is why it's like you got to get involved now like it doesn't matter how you get involved, just get involved Doesn't even matter. Just don't be illiterate. Know how to speak the language.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's kind of like what programming was back in the day. It's like just start learning some HTML, start learning something because, um, just like you know, base code, everything's based off of whatever the past thing was, so as ai gets better and better. If you just go ahead and start now, then, and get into it, then you'll be able to stay up to date and you'll be able to keep, keep building on top of everything. That's keep, that's building, and you're not, like someone said, people still.
Speaker 2:I don't understand why people are getting into programming honestly right now anymore, but people are still getting into programming and they're like how do I?
Speaker 1:get started. I um, I want to learn HTML and I'm just like no, you don't want to learn.
Speaker 3:Don't waste your time on that.
Speaker 1:Like, if you need a website you can get, go out and get a Wix or whatever. Nobody cares anymore what kind of website you have, you know. But but yeah, ai, like I think AI is going to significant. I think we're going to have this huge boom in terms of, uh, space and because if you can imagine, like building a station or whatever out in space, you could use robots for that and you and those robots would have ai in them to just be able to build anything, anything you can imagine. You just give them the problem to solve then again, isn't like what do you?
Speaker 1:think about the limitations of ai uh, whereas we're, it's limited by what we already know, because if I asked it some. Because the thing I think what makes us different is we go out and we try things, whereas AI just predetermines whether or not it's worth trying, if it's going to give a good result or not good result, and if it already can run through the scenario of oh, that's not possible or that breaks the laws of physics, well then, it's never going to go and experiment or try to do that.
Speaker 1:I think that's maybe a job that us humans are still going to venture out in in terms of science and all that, where we're trying things because we don't know if it's going to work or not, but whereas an ai wouldn't even try it because it breaks the laws of physics.
Speaker 2:For now, yeah, that's true. The answer for almost all of these things is like you're right for now. You can arbitrage videos for now, until even Nick from the boxing gym just knows that he can go, click, click, boom and the AI is arbitraging itself. So that's like. The big thing is it's like for now, it's. If it's deceiving, why do you think it can't become curious?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true. Which is not?
Speaker 2:I don't think that's true, that's scary AGI, which is this next level. So basically we've got AI, is already, or really close to surpassing the IQ that's possible for humans, and then the next level is when it has the IQ of of all humans combined ever, and that's the next level. They're already talking about artificial general intelligence, um, and that's next. That's like two years out, one one to two years out, and we don't know what's gonna happen. We don't know what to do with it, but it's, it's on its way yeah yeah yeah, so get, get figuring it out.
Speaker 2:You know, like it's, like it's, it's a serious, it's a serious time and and it's both a threat and an opportunity, right, it's, it's, it's a or b. In my opinion, there's no middle ground on this one, like, like I've been, it's black or white, um, and so it's just like.
Speaker 1:Now is the time like now is the time.
Speaker 2:It's gonna get more complicated to learn in a month than it is today. In a year it's gonna be the people that have been doing it, like I've been. I've been, like, I guess, practicing my prompt engineering since the first gpt came out, three or whatever it was, and now, like, just because I've been messing around with it for a year and a half or two years, whatever it's been, I'm excellent, I'm excellent, excellent, excellent, excellent, like the other day. So this is amazing. The other day, a contact of mine who actually met through a podcast we made um and I made this in four prompts perfect tool for, for people that have been in jail for 10 to 20 years, how to get back into society, because you know they it's like, oh, like, typically they've got counselors for that, but then you got to pay the counselors for that. They don't have any money, like when they went into, when they went in it was like a flip phone, and now it's entirely different.
Speaker 2:Everything's so different. You know, like the guy that went in 20 years ago, he, you know he'd be like, oh that's gay. But now he goes out into the market and says that he gets, gets attacked, and so we designed this for prompts, and now all the people that he knows can go prompt one, two, three, four and they've got the perfect tool to help them reintegrate back in society how to work with their family, uh. How to start online businesses, which ai arm charges part of it, of course. How to get hired at places. That's excellent. That's really, really useful and really, really potent. And you can make these amazing, amazing tools.
Speaker 2:Like I have an agent for Peru. I've got an agent for all the places I go to. I've lived in Hong Kong for three years. I went back twice this past year. I've got an agent for there. Hey, I want this, where do I get it? Ah, there, there, that. And so you can develop. I've got a physicality agent. I've obviously got one, uh, that helps me, um, with my, uh, with real life skills academy for the parents, for the kids, um, I've got tons and they're really useful, really quickly okay, well, well, let's go back into your academy.
Speaker 2:With all this AI and everything I'm guessing.
Speaker 1:Okay, going back to the parents that are doing their 9 to 5 and they're in that cycle so we homeschool.
Speaker 1:I was homeschooled. It's amazing. Highly recommend it. But, like in your opinion, how, how do you break that? Like nine to five, if you're even, like you're a single parent, how do you homeschool? Well, also like do you just quit your job? Do you try to do some get working on the side when you're home? Like, how do you homeschool? Well, also like do you just quit your job? Do you try to do some get working on the side when you're home? Like how do you get? How do you break it? How do you get started?
Speaker 2:Well, you know, my mom said these lines to me a lot when I was growing up as a young Aries boy and she would say to me decisions have consequences. And my mom is one of the most loving women ever Decisions have consequences.
Speaker 2:And so I'll start this off by saying that the long-term goal of the Real Life Skills Academy is to be able to equip single mothers with the ability to homeschool their kids. Right now you can't, sorry. You made poor decisions and now you have hefty consequences. With whatever time and what energy you have, take care of your health and maybe don't watch netflix, maybe learn about ai, maybe, like, don't just listen to music while you're like going about. Maybe you listen to education and then maybe we have a chance if you can connect with other families.
Speaker 3:Single that was never a thing. What do you?
Speaker 2:mean you go back a thousand years, to 10,000 to 200,000 years. All the kids were running around doing their things and there was multiple masculine figures, multiple feminine figures and we were tribal units, Just like a family locked up in a house and certainly not a single person trying to raise children. Decisions have consequences. I have a lot of compassion for the people that are in that scenario. It's my primary goal to be able to help those people and I it is so difficult Like you almost have to sacrifice so you can learn ai and sacrifice your health. You can sacrifice your health and not learn ai, and both of those things are going to have a negative impact on your kids. So it's like maybe the answer is like seek community yeah, like uh you cannot buy yourself.
Speaker 2:You need community, and that's savage and sucks.
Speaker 1:Yeah that's a good point I feel like a lot of people you know back in the day going to church or going to your synagogue or whatever religious religion that you followed there was always community and you would go, whether you wanted to or not, whether you really believed it, or not, and you would go. Whether you wanted to or not, whether you really believed it or not, you would go anyway.
Speaker 1:Um but one you would have that community and your kids would always have those kids and it would. And you, you were your unit and I feel like we've, we've really there's been this whole big push over the years of of like what is it Selfism? Or it's like, um, I'm being selfish for yourself and not necessarily caring about your kids or whatever, and whereas back in the day it seems like there was more of a oh, I'm going to go help that guy out because you know he goes to the same church we go to and he needs help or whatever right, you see what I'm getting at.
Speaker 1:I feel like there's this whole move and now we're in this, like you know, with the craziness it's going on everywhere, um, with identifying yourself and all this stuff. It's like, uh, do you think the community itself kind of broke down to it to for work to the point where we're just kind of like all over the place and we don't even we don't have any accountability we don't have anything and it's just like do whatever you want to do, whatever blah, blah blah
Speaker 2:I do think that, yeah, i'm'm living in Peru right now, in a classified third world country, in a classified third world city, and it reminds me of how I grew up in the early 90s. I saw boys playing with cars, toy cars. The other day you go to the square, kids running around riding on their bikes.
Speaker 2:All the mamitas are like know, trading their things, and they're like it's community, yeah, and the iq's not there, the money's not there, but I don't know if these mamitas are 50 or 100, you know like in mid-summer, like my buddy luke, and we hiked this mountain and we were at 4,200 meters and this Mamita who was probably 70, like ran up to us to like sell us literally actually sell me this bracelet, Fit and so like I looked at, like we were up there again and there was this six, seven year old boy moving the cows around, right, Running around you know, six year old boy.
Speaker 2:And then I look at like the like six year olds in North America, you know hearing his screams wondering what their gender is like, depressed. The parents are probably doing all those same things too. I think the answer is like, yes, like through options, lack of accountability, uh, demonization of masculine traits we have. We have decayed in the Western world into, yeah, this like it's like but here's the thing it's like, it's not it's selfish, but there's like, there's like selfish, we're like no, I'm not.
Speaker 2:You want me to come to your birthday. I'm not coming to your birthday because I want to exercise instead. Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's like prior, that's priorities, right? That's not necessarily. I don't.
Speaker 2:Selfishness. And it often is now in the Western world where we shame people for certain things. Yeah, I invited this person to my birthday and they didn't come, and so I don't know. I'm a big fan of selfish acts that build yourself to build your family, to build the community boundaries I guess, we call them boundaries I would call them those those are just priorities to
Speaker 1:me because it's like I, I tell my wife, I'm like I need, I need this, I need you know, an hour a day to take care of me, like I need my own, my own time. I need to do this. And I and I tell her like you need to prioritize you so that you can give your best to everybody else. If you're feeling, you know, if you're feeling wearied out or something, come let me know. And and and you know, don't just you got to communicate and um, but yeah, that's I don't consider, consider that selfish.
Speaker 3:I consider that kind of like you know if you went to work out.
Speaker 1:You're working out so that you can actually provide and be the best version of yourself. To give that back, whereas that's where I think being self is selfish to me would be more like okay, um, I'm just gonna watch netflix, I'm not gonna go work out, and then.
Speaker 1:And then you end up getting fat and you can't actually take care of your family now because they're on the couch, and and now your kids are fat too because they're watching you do that. You're not being a good example there, and I feel like that's a big going back to the shaming and the the masculinity thing, it's really gotten to a place, I feel where the man of the house is now being shamed. Oh, you're not supposed to be like. You're not the man of the house.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean it's like I think that's a the whole woman, power and kind of stuff like that. I feel like it's gone so far on the other end of the spectrum where it's really hurt, uh, the overall mindset of everybody, and people aren't doing anything about it, except for you yeah, except for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's plenty of people out here. I've been blessed to speak with a lot of them recently. It's been really encouraging. I definitely had a bit where it did feel like that, but like, yeah, you're right and you know it's a difficult thing because ultimately, for like 10,000 years plus, we were like crippled and crushed by cultures that would be called like unintegrated masculine and we have a, we have a deep wound of powerful masculine traits.
Speaker 2:There's a saying that says everybody hates the warriors until there's enemies at the gates. And I and I I use this example all the time. Uh, cause I kind of have like, despite being from like a low income house in the countryside of Canada, I don't fit into the like evil white man box, but I look at now doing business right, whatever muscles outspoken, blah, blah, blah. And the classic example that I use with people when they're challenging me on certain things like this is like who would you if you're in a burning building? Who do you want to show up? You want me to show up, right, you don't want this other guy, you don't want me to show up.
Speaker 2:And I just really started to see the like in empowering the feminine. We disempowered the masculine and disempowering the masculine. This doesn't mean men, it means within women, within men, we have masculine traits. We have feminine traits but we have demonized it because we have trauma from it. And the very same traits that protect and provide are the same traits that crushed, that created, whatever all the terrible things, the slavery, the repression, like all these different types of things, because ultimately it's about self-power. A masculine, the I call it, the integrated dark masculine traits, is about that. And now we demonize the whole thing. Demonize, demonize, demonize, demonize. Now enemies are at the gates and there's no warriors and we're getting sucked into this emotional like just missing logic. And I mean, I think one of the greatest travesties that has happened has been telling women that they're going to be fulfilled with a career instead of by having making a family. I don't think there's anything more powerful than like, like you know, like you can only imagine like we can only barely imagine, but like being like a older woman.
Speaker 2:You had five kids. They had five kids each, and you're sitting at the table like I made 30 humans look at them.
Speaker 3:Look at them. They brought their friends over.
Speaker 2:We got 50 people over for a meal and, like, I made that and they're healthy and they're taken care of, um, you know, like you know, you know, it's just I, just I. Let's just say that like, okay, one of my mentors she was part of, like, the design team for Lululemon when it first got launched. She's one of the most in the top 20 powerful women in Canada, multi-millionaire, multi-multi, very influential, and she told me her greatest accomplishment was having kids hands down and she was like there was like.
Speaker 2:There's no comparison. Raising my children was the greatest accomplishment.
Speaker 1:This is coming from a woman who's a multi multimillionaire, and so you so you know it's like I see the women that okay.
Speaker 2:So, like my mom, I think is a really good example, because I'm from a small town of like hippies, you know skiing hippies and when my mom became pregnant she's like I'm a mom now and a lot of our, a lot of her peers, um, were pregnant around the same time, but they were still kind of like partying.
Speaker 2:And then they had their kids, but they'd still party till like three or four and then send their kids to school in the morning. And all of those kids my peers growing up, my friends growing up, almost all of them are in terrible condition, terrible, terrible, terrible. Terrible mental, emotional, physical, financial condition when my mom was just like I'm a mom now. She quit her business. She started becoming, she became a waitress and then worked at the grocery store and now she's actually a Pilates instructor.
Speaker 3:She got her certification, like two or three years ago.
Speaker 2:She's the strongest I've ever seen her and her and I are friends Like I'll call her just to chat, because she's an awesome human and people are like oh my god your son
Speaker 1:just calls you what.
Speaker 2:Your son chooses to come home and spend time with you guys, you don't have to, like, convince him or wrestle him. And I just see other examples of women that chose to be moms and wore this badge of honor instead of a badge of shame and their kids are doing great, and so are they. And then I see kind of the opposite, almost honestly, like the ones that like chose the career path. I mean, first I know a handful of women that are in their late 30s right now no kids, and they are like not emotionally well and panicking to have kids now ending up with these idiot men and decisions have consequences. And so, yeah, I'm like I'm really really leaning into this kind of like. What's going on here? What makes fulfillment for men? What makes fulfillment for women? What makes health for men? What makes health for women? And newsflash they're different equations yeah a hundred, yeah, 100.
Speaker 1:So, uh, let's go into the going back to your, uh, teaching kids um, do you, is that like online? Um, is that a program that you do online? Are they what age, is what age like do you start at or is it? Can you tell me a little bit about the program?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so we have three programs. We have self-leadership, health and habits and entrepreneurship foundations. Those are going to evolve into different branches, but right now we have self-leadership and one second. I need to make sure that doesn't happen again.
Speaker 1:No worries, it shouldn't even be able to happen and we are coming close on time, so just let me know when we want to wrap.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll tell you about my programs. Okay, so there's three divisions self-leadership, health and habits. Entrepreneurship foundation Self-leadership is pretty packaging for spiritual and emotional and relational and self-introspection. It's a 10-week program. Health and habits is physical excellency and time management. Entrepreneurship foundations the foundations is like the mindset. Mindset kind of how money works, start a little thing, get some sales. That's going to branch into three directions, which is going to be investment and taxes. You know, if you want to be the best, whatever comb maker will help you do that. And then obviously ai. And so they're online 10, 10 weeks, 10 kids per class and we teach all the things that we teach the kids for free on our online platform to parents. So every concept that's in Entrepreneurship Foundations you can go right now. You can go click it. You can see all the concepts that we teach the kids. We're not gatekeeping information Now we can talk about, like some midterm. That's a short term. Right, that's this year. I said this is a startup that's been 10 years in the making.
Speaker 1:Oh, I got it.
Speaker 2:Okay, where we're going right is this online community we want to have. We will have. We already are starting to have this in london and in canada. Um, like, I'm a mom and I have a teenager and we're gonna gather in person on wednesdays at heather's. Oh, that's nice and that's likely gonna branch into like a bni WeWorks thing where, like on Wednesdays let's say Wednesdays at Heather's is teenagers that are interested in entrepreneurism and they're going to gather and we're going to have, obviously, a very strict vetting process around all these types of things to make sure it's aligned with our culture. Um, uh, we're, I'm definitely, definitely. I think this summer is way too ambitious, but I'm gonna do camps, so I'm gonna do a boys camp and it's gonna be like the boys camp, like fishing um sleeping outside.
Speaker 1:It's a fire, no phones that's right.
Speaker 2:That's right, like you can eat when you show me fire, right?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, yeah type stuff.
Speaker 2:The age that we're currently working with is 14 to 20, and we will be branching lower and lower.
Speaker 2:14 to 20 is just a very tender time right now they're also a little bit older, a little bit more mature, they can get into some of these things. They're starting to think about getting out of the real life a little bit more, uh. But the online platform is for all ages, so it's it's. You can be any age, you can join. It's designed for parents, but we teach real life skills to humans, and I want to have a lot of sections about people that have new newborn kids between the age of zero to seven.
Speaker 2:I have a pretty good understanding of, like, the brains and the importance of certain things at that time, and so it's going to be a one-stop shop for parents at that time. And so it's going to be a one-stop shop for parents. Uh, after that, or maybe soon, we'll see. What I'm in the process of designing right now is a um, an sop, a standard operating procedure for, like, let's say, you're a coder, right? Hey, matt, I want to teach kids coding. It's like, okay, well, you're gonna, you're gonna be able to go through. So let's use gardening or math. You're a math teacher, but you don't like the politics of the thing. You're a gardener, you want to teach kids how to garden. There's going to be a and it's almost completed, but you'll be able to take all your info, all the things up in your head.
Speaker 2:Run it through my agent, my AI agent and then have a like 10 week real life skills academy certified program to go and teach teenagers and go and teach parents, and so I want to, you know, incorporate things like gardening, all these types of things, but the big one for me right now is teaching what I call non-bullshit subjects, which is stem science, tech, engineering, tech, engineering and medicine. And so is it medicine, math.
Speaker 1:It's math right, yeah it's math.
Speaker 2:So we want to teach the biology and the physics and the chemistry and the math, and I've had clients coaching clients that are biology teachers. The cognitive dissonance of what they must teach right now is actually making them ill, and so they can come. You know, we all know you don't need half a year to teach the things that can be done in 10 weeks. So take your thing, come, work for us, get paid more to do a more efficient job, have better results from the kids, and so that's going to be kind of. Next is I'm not interested in burning down the existing education system. I'm interested in reintegrating the excellent parts this is called reading, writing and arithmetic into reading, and writing is going to be exceptionally important in the age of ai, by the way, and and you know debate, communication I don't know if they had pe where you were physical education, but that was not physical education, growing a dodgeball, and so that's true.
Speaker 2:So, anyway, so 14 to 20, 10 week online. It's 10 weeks. We're focusing right now on entrepreneurship and self-leadership manage your emotions, manage your money and we're launching the cohort in June. You can join the free platform at any time. Um, that's it. Come oh and uh.
Speaker 2:I want the platform and the education, in contrast to the existing education system to be designed by parents for parents. So that's why I'm really encouraging people to get in right now, while we're at this well, while we were at this grassroots level. Uh, because you get to like pick your own adventure.
Speaker 1:You got a seven-year-old right now.
Speaker 2:Oh my, I can't enroll them, it's got seven more years. Yeah, come make the thing with us that by that time we'll probably work with 10. You'd be three years of you developing. Your kid turns 10. They get in with us. We're open're open to feedback and this is a community development thing.
Speaker 1:And what was the site? Where could people find it?
Speaker 2:reallifeskillsacademycom.
Speaker 1:Nice Well, this was a great episode, I think Really enjoyed talking with you, matthew. Thank you, I'm going to have to have you back on honestly, maybe at the end of the year, if you're open to it, see where you guys are at.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'd love to.
Speaker 1:Excellent, awesome, matthew, thank you so much. Have a good one. Thanks bye, eric, appreciate it.
